Welcome to the twelfth episode of Dan Fournier’s Down the Rabbit Hole podcast.
Special Guest: Vera Sharav.
Photograph of Vera Sharav (née Roll) with her mother in father at the onset of World War II.
In this special podcast episode, I am honoured to be joined by first-generation Holocaust survivor Vera Sharav.
Alternate Podcast Links, listen on:
Spreaker (download the .mp3 for later listening).
Show Time Stamps
[00:00 to 00:50] Podcast intro.
[00:51 to 02:56] Welcoming Vera Sharav and a brief biographical introduction.
[02:57 to 04:54] Vera’s very first memory of World War II.
[04:56 to 13:50] Vera elaborates on her time in various concentration camps, her parents’ sacrifices, and how she avoided certain death. She also explains how people have been putting their “blinders” on during the Covid-19 Pandemic which is leading them into their own slavery.
[14:01 to 20:23] Vera explains her motivation for creating the documentary series Never Again is Now Global (see Show Notes below for more information on this docuseries).
[20:24 to 26:25] The focus shifts on eugenics. Vera explains how biotechnology and surveillance technology merging as one leads to genocide.
[26:26 to 32:30] Here we talk about bio-warfare and who Vera thinks should stand trial should we have a Nuremberg 2.0. Science vs Scientism (see Rabbit Shorts video clip below).
[32:58 to 0:48:08] After quoting a passage from a leaflet published by a WWII group of young German resisters called The White Rose, Very expands on who they were and the important of their message. (see the Show Notes below for more information on The White Rose).
[48:12 to 0:54:44] Apart from the obvious parallels between the Holocaust and Covid-19, does Vera see other such parallels, be it the war in Ukraine, Israel & Palestine, or other? Endless wars. The United Nations. The “puppeteers.” Operation Paperclip.
[54:52 to 1:02:35] Vera explains the difference between Zionism and Judaism. The Holocaust survivor also explains how Hitler wanted to first expel Jews from Germany before he eventually opted for the “final solution.”
[1:02:36 to 1:05:10] Does being critical of Zionism make one an racist or antisemite?
[1:05:22 to 1:07:30] What does Vera see unfolding in the next few years and what advice or warning would can she offer us? Digital IDs. Digital Concentration Camps. Non-compliance.
[1:07:31 to 1:08:28] Where people can find Vera Sharav’s work.
[1:08:54 to 1:11:32] Outro (song) - White Rabbit by Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane.
Show Notes
First, a very fitting quote:
“We learn from history that we learn nothing from history.” - George Bernard Shaw, Irish playwright.
Never Again is Now Global
Never Again is Now Global is ambitious film project is the brainchild of Holocaust survivor and human rights activist Vera Sharav.
Romanian-born holocaust survivor Vera Sharav (née Roll).
Vera as a child.
Vera as a child.
The series addresses the many parallels between the Holocaust and the recent three years of lockdowns and coerced medical procedures.
Here is the trailer for the documentary series:
Promotional Poster for the 5-part docuseries Never Again is Now Global.
“Each one-hour episode focuses on recent testimonies by Holocaust survivors and their descendants who discuss comparisons between the early repressive stages under the Nazi regime that culminated in the Holocaust and global COVID-19 policies,” describes Sharav.
The five episodes to the series are as follows
Dan Fournier’s Review of the Never Again is Now Global docuseries
After having watched the 5-part docuseries, I was really moved by its historical content, the striking parallels which seamlessly align with the Covid-19 Pandemic, and with its overall message.
I therefore decided to write a review of the series in which I examined about two to three claims from each episode of the docuseries in order to further investigate their veracity. The end result was made into a free 188-page eBook: The Covid-19 – Holocaust Comparison, A Review of the docuseries Never Again is Now Global.
Each part of my own review series can be seen hereunder:
The Covid-19 – Holocaust Comparison, Part 2
The Covid-19 – Holocaust Comparison, Part 3, Eugenics
The Covid-19 – Holocaust Comparison, Part 4, The Mark of the Beast, Digital IDs & CBDCs
The Covid-19 – Holocaust Comparison, Part 5, Who’s Funding the Fact-Checkers?
The Covid-19 – Holocaust Comparison, Part 6 – Conclusion
Cover image for Part 6, Conclusion of my review series. I always wonder what happened to that girl (top-right).
My review series was also re-published in:
Johnny Vedmore’s NEWSPASTE
Jim Quinn’s The Burning Platform
The White Rose
The White Rose was a resistance group comprised of courageous Germans who opposed Hitler, the Nazis, and their destructive policies during the height of WWII.
Members of The White Rose (Hans Scholl is on the top left and his sister Sophie in the top middle). Image source: The Collector – The White Rose: A Youth Resistance That Denounced Hitler.
There’s also the 1982 film The White Rose.
The book I referenced during our talk is called The White Rose, Munich 1942-1943 by Inge School which is a translation from German by the sister of Hans and Sophie.
Here are some key passages from the book (note: the first one is the one I quoted in the interview):
“Goethe speaks of the Germans as a tragic nation, like the Jews and the Greeks. But these days, Germans appear more like a shallow, irresolute herd of opportunists who have had all the marrow sucked from their bones. Now that they have been robbed of their essence, they are willing to be pursued to their destruction. This is how it appears, but it is not so. Rather, every individual has been jailed in an intellectual prison after having been slowly, deceptively, and systematically raped. Only as he lies there in chains is he aware of his doom. A few recognized the pending perdition [for what it was]. The reward for their heroic exhortations was death. There is more to say about the fate of these people.” - Leaflet 1
“If everyone waits until the other man makes a start, the messengers of avenging Nemesis will come steadily closer; then even the last victim will have been cast senselessly into the maw of the insatiable demon. Therefore every individual, conscious of his responsibility as a member of Christian and Western civilization, must defend himself as best he can at this late hour, he must work against the scourges of mankind, against fascism and any similar system of totalitarianism.” - Leaflet 1
“The German people slumber on in their dull, stupid sleep and encourage these fascist criminals, they give them the opportunity to carry on their depredations; and of course they do so. Is this a sign that the Germans are brutalized in their simplest human feelings, that no chord within them cries out at the sight of such deeds, that they have sunk into a fatal consciousness from which they will never, never awake? It seems to be so; and will certainly be so, if the German does not at last start up out of his stupor, if he does not protest wherever and whenever he can against this clique of criminals, if he shows no sympathy for these hundreds of thousands of victims. He must evidence not only sympathy; no, much more: a sense of complicity in guilt. For through his apathetic behavior he gives these evil men the opportunity to act as they do; he tolerates this “government” which has taken upon itself such an infinitely great burden of guilt; indeed, he himself is to blame for the fact that it came about at all!” - Leaflet 2
The parallels with these passages and what is happening today are eerily ominous, tragically confirming that we have indeed learned nothing from history; and, that the masses are apathetically muddling along aimlessly and ignorantly in a zombified state of stupor.
Here are links to the leaflets of The White Rose (translated from German):
See the short video clip linked below in this post with Vera explaining what The White Rose group was about.
Redefining antisemitism (United States H.R. 6090 bill)
During the interview, I made mention of how the United States bill H.R. 6090 would redefine antisemitism (to that prescribed by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, or IHRA).
Rabbit Shorts
It’s Not Science; it’s Scientism!
In this short video clip, Vera explains the difference.
The White Rose
In this second video clip, Vera provides a very good overview of The White Rose group of young German resisters during the Second World War.
Signing Off
A heartfelt thank you to Vera Sharav for her invaluable testimony to one of the most important events in human history, her advocacy, and mostly for her courage, wisdom, and indefatigable spirit.
I would also like to sincerely thank Bethan Nodwell who connected me with Vera to set up this momentous interview.
You can follow Vera’s work via the following links:
The free online docuseries Never Again is Now Global
Please help to financially support Vera and her work at the Alliance for Human Research Protection (AHRP) by clicking here.
Vera is also working on a book which will be a companion to the series Never Again is Now Global.
In addition, there will be a 6th episode appended to the series Never Again is Now Global.
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